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Evilsod · Jul 21, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

I find the whole thing quite offensive...

Think back to school. You have a Common Room, its a place you go to chat with your friends, in the same place as everyone else, whether you like them or not. If you want to go elsewhere to chat, you can.

The English district has instead been changed to common... we have no choice in the matter. We have no place else to go... we have simply been called 'common' and left to it.

The fact they called it a Common District is more of the problem. Common is probably more insulting to the English playings than it is to the rest of the world.

I see no logical reason as to why they changed it. Sure they may have wanted to bring 'International' style districts closer to home to reduce the lag... but changing the English district to been Common wasn't the solution.

Bithor the Dog · Jul 21, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Never had a common room at my school we just chatted....

Really this is getting blown out of proportion. Its a simple name change to districts....if we had kept english then the slovinians, romanians, greeks, and just about any other race without thier own district, that means they got the right to come in here and complain then, because they feel justified that they have been dealt a racial blow.....jeeeez...

Fine put in a complaint...will it make your game any more enjoyable or is it just making people vent their spleens a little more. Me i couldnt care less as it doesnt effect my game...if they started charging subscriptions then yeah i would say something, but this is over the top , mountain out of a molehill stuff.

captain_carter · Jul 21, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by MirageMaster

Yes,english is the worlds number one language and this is why ppl think of it as common.

Mandarin Chinese is the most widely spoken language in the world, and I can't find any other language ranking system.

My personal feelings towards this issue are that it is unfair that English speakers do not have their own clearly dedicated district, since we are all equal why should French and German have dedicated districts when English don't? It seems clear that the Common districts are intended to be English, since they replace the English districts and England residents are automatically sent there. I do feel that the name is slightly negative since people can easily see that common can be used in a derogatory context.

That this is not the first definition in the dictionary has little bearing on the meaning people choose to infer.

The fairest way to do things would be to give every language its own district, however this would be very impractical, even having English and common would be stretching the players too thinly.

I think it is better for those that do not have a dedicated district for their primary language, to have a "Universal" European district. Whilst common may not be the best name, it will do. There will always be some people unhappy, I guess this time its the English speakers.

Evilsod · Jul 21, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by Bithor the Dog

Really this is getting blown out of proportion. Its a simple name change to districts....if we had kept english then the slovinians, romanians, greeks, and just about any other race without thier own district, that means they got the right to come in here and complain then, because they feel justified that they have been dealt a racial blow.....jeeeez...

Fine put in a complaint...will it make your game any more enjoyable or is it just making people vent their spleens a little more. Me i couldnt care less as it doesnt effect my game...if they started charging subscriptions then yeah i would say something, but this is over the top , mountain out of a molehill stuff.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But you can't change the English District of the game to the Common District and not expect a reaction. It can be misinterpretted as an attempt to say that the English are common and that the French, etc, are better than us and deserve there own district.
Its a bit much to interpret it like that, but its still unfair if they remove our own district.

Curse You · Jul 21, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

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Originally Posted by MirageMaster

Yes,english is the worlds number one language and this is why ppl think of it as common.I rather see russians get their own district.

Actually, the number one is Mandarin. Followed afterwards by Arabic and Spanish.

eightyfour-onesevenfive · Jul 21, 2007, 11:39 PM // 23:39

I already posted this over in the Sanitarium, I'll post it here again...

I see it this way: The english districts always were the common districts. All Anet did was name them appropriately. Every player who's local setting didn't match one of the specific language districts was by default placed in the english districts. No change there. I highly doubt that there is a lot more non-english conversation going on now in the common districts than when they were called english.

Actually, I couldn't care less about how the districts are called. Call them "Strawberry", "Chocolate" and "Vanilla", if you like!

Or get rid of them altogether and have only common districts.

But for what it's worth, I would see no harm in having both common and english districts.

Bithor the Dog · Jul 22, 2007, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Actually, the number one is Mandarin. Followed afterwards by Arabic and Spanish.

Better to say that English is far more world wide in its distribution than all other spoken languages. It is an official language in 52 countries as well as many small colonies and territories. Chinese is primarily spoken in ...well...China

I would think that the distribution of english would count towards the districts blah blah....etcetc

@ evilsod..
I am stunned at the reaction..really, is there any need for such a huge OVER reaction on most peoples part....
What next, we site ANET for racial slurring and start bringing a class action in the european court of human rights?

People can interpret it how they like, but in the end it was nothing more than a name change and not the over reactive hype of making out that any race, country, district, county, town or street was in any way greater or lesser than the next. You even state its a bit much, so why say it? just leave it and go play, after all isnt that why we bought the bloomin game?
(and yeah ive finished playing at 1:30 am after a 6 hour playing time so im chin wagging)

Question, does it make a difference?

Dev121 · Jul 22, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Actually, the number one is Mandarin. Followed afterwards by Arabic and Spanish.

Please thats the third time someones said that , try to read all the other posts and not drift off topic.

It would be nice for one of the game managament team to come on and explain why theyve done this , justification from the source is whats important of course. Although there is little valid reason to remove ones district to make it name open ended. Maybe they just dont like the english

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warren_kn · Jul 22, 2007, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

I highly doubt that there is a lot more non-english conversation going on now in the common districts than when they were called english.

Correct. However there is more non-English conversation there than there is non-French in the French district and non-German in the german districts etc., which is why I agree with you that there should be a common AND English district.

reetkever · Jul 22, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by captain_carter

My personal feelings towards this issue are that it is unfair that English speakers do not have their own clearly dedicated district, since we are all equal why should French and German have dedicated districts when English don't?

Because all non-English players can still SPEAK English most of the time, and they cannot speak any other language. The French Districts existed only of French people, the German only of German people...

The English Districts, however, were a mix of all other people who didn't fit in the non-English districts. If you split out English from Common, English would be very empty, and Common would most likely be very crowded, still, and there would still be spoken English, in order to understand each other. Or, of course, the people would stay in English Districts, in order to communicate and trade and look for parties etc.

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Originally Posted by captain_carter

It seems clear that the Common districts are intended to be English, since they replace the English districts and England residents are automatically sent there. I do feel that the name is slightly negative since people can easily see that common can be used in a derogatory context.

I think that they mean 'Common' as in: People that can speak English, but can't have a district of their own cause then they would be too empty. It's just a mix of everyone, and the easiest way to communicate is in English.

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Originally Posted by captain_carter

The fairest way to do things would be to give every language its own district, however this would be very impractical, even having English and common would be stretching the players too thinly.

Yes, and not all players would be in their own districts. If I was Spanish, I wouldn't be in the Spanish districts. I can speak English, and the common districts are way better to buy/sell/do missions. If they made districts for everyone, it would not have alot of effect I think.

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Originally Posted by captain_carter

I think it is better for those that do not have a dedicated district for their primary language, to have a "Universal" European district. Whilst common may not be the best name, it will do. There will always be some people unhappy, I guess this time its the English speakers.

But what if there were both an English district and Common?

In the English District, people would just speak English... But in the Common districts, 20 different languages would be spoken through each other. Or, of course, everyone chose to keep speaking English, so that everyone could understand each other.

Or, of course, everyone would just go to the English districts. Whatever the situation, the Common District would be useless, cause without English, the District would be chaotic. This is why they also changed English district, I think. So that people would keep speaking English, but not only people from England would be here.

phoenixar · Jul 24, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Actually, the number one is Mandarin. Followed afterwards by Arabic and Spanish.

For 1st language speakers.. come on use your brain. English is the most widely understood language in the world.

The thing that worries me is now they've abolished the "English" district the "Common" district might degenerate in to oodles of different languages being spammed and that would have a negative affect on the community.. and it saddens me that yes I'm from the UK and my language doesn't have a district no more.. (but that's okay because English people aren't aloud to be offended by anything and should shut up complaining, right?)

The whole decision is bizarre.. They gave Russian' and Polish people their own district then renamed ours to "Common" I mean what is the point..

Frostlight · Jul 24, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54

The West Lothian question comes to GW.

warren_kn · Jul 24, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22

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Originally Posted by Frostlight

The West Lothian question comes to GW.

Haha don't even get me started on that one

Sophitia Leafblade · Jul 24, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

The International Districts should really be the "common" districts rather than the english districts, since theres more of a mix of languages there. However as it is i have no problems in the English districts being the "common" district since anyone who doesnt have a specific district generally joins in the english one such as the Aussies and Dutch etc. etc. Although it may not be the most common Language English general is the most used for international Purposes (although i have no proof of that other than experience).

Cebe · Jul 24, 2007, 11:11 AM // 11:11

/vote for there to be an English District and a Common District on the European servers.

Would that not solve most problems?

Skuld · Jul 24, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26

There is no change at all.. you do know that right? They renamed the dist, but the same people are there as before..

Clord · Jul 24, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

/vote for there to be an English District and a Common District on the European servers.

Would that not solve most problems?

Not really. Then other people remain Common district while someones go to English district. It make districts even more empty.

anshin · Jul 24, 2007, 12:17 PM // 12:17

so much fuss about it...

simply suggest english dis should be added... no matter how much you'll discuss it won't make it happen faster...

i vote for making districts for some more languages... at least in europe servers... i don't know the language situation outside europe... but europe has too many languages and important ones passing by... and that shouldn't happen...

i vote for districts for every language spoken in europe districts... specially portuguese xD

and i like empty districts... i always go to the highest number district when i go to a major city... its really cool to see ToA with just one or two persons...

Effendi Westland · Jul 24, 2007, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Reinstate the english district and keep the common one. But I do not want to be in a common district

Alternatively...rename the common district to the royal district.

kade · Jul 24, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

ITT people who have time to complain about the NAME of the room in which they are chatting. In the long list of things to complain about, is this really worth it? Choose your battles people...